Welcome

Welcome to the Southgate Triangle Website. The goal of this site is to better inform and connect the citizens of our neighborhood and to foster community and dialog. The Vision Statement (above in the header) was adopted by the Neighborhood Council at it's April 2008 meeting. Please consider the following rationale for such a vision statement:

The neighborhood council system was created to foster open communication between the citizens of Missoula and their City Government. It has the potential to be much more.

There is a diversity of culture, background, and experience within our
neighborhood that we can all benefit from. By becoming familiar and comfortable with our neighbors we create the potential for open communication, new friendships, collaborative problem solving, and a safer, more conscientious community.

The neighborhood council provides a venue for people to introduce themselves, meet those living near them to openly discuss questions or concerns to one or all, and create the relationships and friendships so crucial to realization of all the benefits of being “neighbors.”

In the end, the leadership team wants the citizens of the Southgate Triangle to know that this is their council, and by using it as an interactive resource they can improve their community by interacting with each other.

We have the right and the power to enjoy our neighbors, our neighborhood, and our community.


So please wander around and make yourself at home and please check back often as the content will change often. If you have any questions or ideas for this site, or if you'd like to write your own post to appear here on the front page of this site, or if you have general ideas for our neighborhood, please email the leadership team, or post a public comment on one of the pages of this site. Please consider registering by clicking the "Getting Connected" link above and you can receive an email each time this site is updated.

Special Announcement

Important Announcement

The regular monthly leadership team meeting will occur on the second Thursday of January, February, and March 2011 (rather than Wednesday). It will still begin at 7:00 PM in the Southgate Mall Community Room.

October General Meeting Minutes

Present: Leadership Team members Hans Christiansen, Erik West

Residents: Ann Carpenter, Christine Ross

City Council representatives and residents Ed Childers, Lyn Hellegaard

Others: Tom Zavitz and Erin Scott

The meeting opened with a welcome and introduction of the leadership team members at 7:05 pm.

Public comment on items not on the agenda.

Tom Zavitz introduced himself as a planner with the Office of Planning & Grants. He explained that each planner is assigned to attend neighborhood meetings to be a resource and of assistance in planning and zoning issues and questions.

New Business

Meet the candidates for upcoming November election for state house and senate seats.

Patty Lovaas & Tom Facey SD 48, David Wanzenried SD 49, Ryan Thompson HD 97 and Nicholas Lisi for County Sheriff were in attendance. Each candidate gave a background of their experience and shared some of their platform philosophies.

Questions were asked and dialogue exchanged around those topics.

Elections

The neighborhood Council officially elected acting Community Forum Representative Erik West to that position. Christine Ross was nominated at the September leadership team meeting for secretary.

No one volunteered to serve in that capacity at the meeting, so no other nominations were brought forth.

It was decided to elect another alternate to the Community Forum. The current alternate has not been present at any leadership team meetings and has not been able to be contacted for some time. Lyn Hellegaard nominated Christine Ross as an alternate to Community Forum. Ed Childers seconded that nomination.

All positions were voted in unanimously.

Large Project Grant application update

The NC applied jointly with the South 39th Street NC for art on 3 traffic signal boxes on S. 39th Street. The funding committee has requested neighbors adjacent to those signal boxes be contacted for their input in the process. Some citizens have expressed disliking what they may have to look at everyday. A letter was generated from the Office of Neighborhoods to the project coordinator, Jeff Stevens asking for this outreach to be done as part of the application.

Traffic Calming Plan for the neighborhood

An update on the application submitted in February was shared. The findings of the traffic study were shared and the options explained. Where to go from here? Due to the economic climate, and the fact that a recent road and park district were established, it was expressed that going to residents and selling another tax imposed upon them would probably not be supported. The option of having McDonald Street marked with lines indicating center line, ped/bike lane of which the City will do as part of traffic services was the best option to proceed with at this time. It was expressed that crosswalks/signage indicating pedestrians may be crossing on McDonald street and the same be done in the Boyd Park area on Ernest Street as the park is being used more heavily with the installation of the new playground equipment. Christine Ross will follow up on that request.

Property vacation at 38th Street/Dore Lane

The leadership team was contacted with a request to comment on a property vacation. The site was visited and it was decided there was no objection due to the fact that the movie theatre commercial parking lot prohibited extension of the street to Reserve St.

Lyn Hellegaard expressed concern that if the subdivision request in that area ever went through and was developed that there would not be adequate routes to evacuate if in the event of an emergency it was necessary and that option should not be closed off. The commercial property should be considered for an easement of right of way. She will express that when it comes to City Council for approval.

Review and Approve April 2010 Meeting Minutes

Minutes are an official record of neighborhood council activities and business requiring a vote by residents.

Erik West motioned to approve the meeting minutes from April 2010. Ed Childers seconded the motion. All were in favor of adoption.

Treasures Report

Update on current amount in the general budget and the mailing supplement and discuss recent expenditures. Erik West reported that as of current, there is $391.23 in the general budget and $289.81 in the mailing supplement.

Old Business

The Boyd Park party was a success and the use of the park has increased with the installation of the new playground. There is a fall zone where the old swings used to be. Parks Department and the NC are looking for funding for another piece of play equipment for that space.

Neighborhood Watch is an ongoing outreach for membership.

The leadership team will continue to work towards increasing involvement by neighbors in the council system and increase attendance at general meetings.

The meeting adjourned at 8:50 pm

Southgate Triangle Neighborhood Meeting

WHEN: Wednesday, October 13, 7:00 pm—9:00 pm
WHERE: Southgate Mall "Community Room" (Entrance door at crosswalk between JC Penney’s & Mall Security Office on the north facing aspect of the mall ~ in the hall by Pet Land)
PURPOSE: Be informed on what’s going on in your neighborhood and share your ideas!

Would you please help us by spreading the word to your neighbors and inviting your friends? If you have questions, or would like more information, contact Hans Christiansen hnschristiansen@aol.com or 728-3680.

Agenda

(7:00) Welcome
(7:02) Public comment on items not on the agenda
(7:10) New Business

  • Meet the candidates for upcoming November election for state house and senate seats. Opportunity for Q & A.
    • Patty Lovaas & Tom Facey SD 48
    • Diane Sands HD 95
    • David Wanzenried SD 49

( 7:35) Elections to the Leadership Team

  • The Leadership Team organizes gatherings and disseminates information to neighborhood residents.
  • We will be electing volunteers to serve as our Community Forum Representative and Secretary.
  • Nominations:
    • Acting Community Forum Representative, Erik West
    • Secretary, Christine Ross

(7:45) Large Project Grant application update

  • The NC applied jointly with the South 39th Street NC for art on 3 traffic signal boxes on S. 39th St.

(7:50) Traffic Calming Plan for the neighborhood

  • Update on the application submitted in February. Present findings, explain options and solicit input to create a neighborhood plan for traffic calming.

(8:15) Property Vacation at 38th Street/Dore Lane
(8:20) Review and Approve April 2010 Meeting Minutes

  • Minutes are an official record of neighborhood council activities and business requiring a vote by residents.
  • Past minutes can be viewed by clicking the “Meeting Minutes” link at the top of the webpage.

(8:28) Treasures Report

  • Update on current amount in the general budget and the mailing supplement and discuss recent expenditures.

(8:32) Old Business

  • Boyd Park Party (August 2010):

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Neighborhood Park Party!

Please come out to Boyd Park (3131 Washburn St.) this Sunday, August 15th for a neighborhood-wide celebration commemorating our brand new playground equipment!

Mayor Engen will kick things off at 4:00 PM. There will be games for kids, live music, face painting, drumming, and free Captain Hook ice cream!

Would you please help us by spreading the word to your neighbors and inviting your friends? If you have questions, or would like more information please email the neighborhood council, or call Hans Christiansen at 728-3680.

April General Meeting Minutes

In attendance

Leadership Team members: Hans Christiansen (Chair), Erik West (Treasurer)
City Council Representatives Ed Childers and Rene Mitchell
Approximately 20 neighbors.

Meeting Called to order at 7:03 PM

Review and approve meeting minutes from of the Leadership Team from March 2010. Mr. Christiansen mentioned they were brief as only 4 were in attendance.

Treasurer's Report:

Erik West reported there is $ 558.28 in the general budget and $398.82 remaining in the mailing supplement; which does not reflect the recent mailing and delivery for this meeting.

Announcements:

Robert Parcell is running for Missoula County Sheriff. He introduced himself as such and provided some professional and personal background information and experience for his candidacy.

Tom Facey introduced himself and announced he is running for State Senate District 48. He talked about his past experience and why he is running for office.

Representatives that work with the State Sex Offender Program introduced themselves and offered information on the program registry and how to use it. If people have concerns or want more information they can be contacted and provide information that is within the public right to know, such as victim age, and explanation of the tier system. Jamie Merifeild, Missoula Police Department detective provided an overview of the program. State Department of Corrections Parole & Probation Officers Katie Burton and Michelle Puemer offered what their duties include, and US Federal Probation Officer Jean Keiley explained her role as well in the supervision of offenders. All stated it is good to have offenders on a probation status as they have to report to someone and they are required to be in therapy.

Public comment on items not on the Agenda:

Stan Skousen expressed his concern that someone has a large trailer with large signs on it with "No Bathrooms.com" parked in the area of Lux and Bellcrest. He feels this is a political advertisement and wonders how/why and if this is legal. He feels it is inappropriate as it is parked on a city street. Ed Childers offered political signage can be on private property. Wayne Gravatt offered that no large trailer may be parked on a city street. This may fall under an issue of the 24-hour rule of parking as well. If it obstructs view of traffic it can be called in to city police. He indicated he would look into it when he has his work hat on.

Old Business

Neighborhood Watch Program
Christine Ross explained the program and the efforts in the neighborhood for recruitment. A sign- up sheet of interest was available. There will be a recruitment drive in the near future with a list of interested parties already identified. A block captain training will be set up after another canvas of neighbors.

Traffic Calming
Christine Ross stated that an application for consideration for traffic calming was submitted to the City in February. The project area would include Grant from Brooks to 34th St. and McDonald from Paxson to Russell. Every neighbor contacted regarded drivers speeding was an issue on both streets and failure to stop on McDonald Street occurs frequently. The application is awaiting determination from the City whether the application will be considered and scheduled for traffic studies.

Discussion
Wayne Gravatt from Traffic Services is in attendance as a neighbor. He expressed that some measures put in place in various areas in town haven't achieved the results expected or desired. He is part of the process of the application and did offer that there is something that has been working, a deflector of sorts put on signs to emphasize speed limits and stop signage, which might be a consideration. It will be important to look at the options available or to try.

A comment was made that there aren't a lot of accidents as purported at Grant/McDonald intersection. This woman had a fence damaged, but it was due to a medical condition the driver had that caused an accident. Further comment was made that this is considered an accident. Again Wayne Gravatt offered that he has access to all information regarding that intersection and it will be part of the consideration process for the application. As information becomes available the neighborhood and council will be updated.

Boyd Park Improvements

Hans Christiansen reported that Boyd Park was one of the parks to have a review process for what
types of improvements may be incorporated. Of those that commented in that process, all agreed on three designs out of nine. The Parks Department is about to award a bid for services for playground equipment and will bring to the Neighborhood Council a choice for color scheme for that equipment. Designs were available for review.

New Business

The chair spoke about the Neighborhood Large Grant Project Fund program and offered three ideas for grant applications:

  1. A covered shelter at Boyd Park. It would cost about $30,000 and would need the partnerships with others to generate the necessary funds. There was discussion that this would be a nice feature in the park, but may contribute to activity not desired in the park. There also are no restroom facilities in the park. The neighbors felt that it may be a larger project than neighbors wanted to support at this time. 
  2. To partner with the Midtown Association to do improvement and establish a gateway to the neighborhood and area on a triangle parcel of land, mostly in city right of way with a small section privately leased to a sign company in the area of Paxson/Dixon/Brooks Streets. Mike Steele, a private landscaper and neighbor offered a couple renderings of ideas for that location. He expressed interest in pursuing that as a project.
  3. Partnering with the South 39th Street NC in applying for traffic box art for four signal boxes along South 39th Street. Those typically go for $1000 a box.

Discussion ensued about which of these projects would seem feasible and people have interest in. Jill Blomgren motioned to focus on the triangle beautification and the art on the traffic boxes. Erik West seconded. All were in favor. It was identified who to bring to the table and to contact for further information and invite those parties to the pre-application workshop for the neighborhood grant process on April 28.

Planning meeting for Neighborhood Watch
After the canvas and recruitment of members and the $2 fee is collected, there will a training set up for Block Captains with the Crime Prevention Officer.

Ice Cream Social to Welcome New Playground
The playground equipment is to be in place by July 4th. The NC will host a celebration when the work is completed. Jill Blomgren motioned to have this social after the playground is installed. Erik West seconded the motion. All were in favor.

Neighborhood Council Elections

Hans Christiansen stated there is a need to have more leadership team members. The Chair, Co-Chair, Secretary, Community Forum Rep and Alt positions are open. It was expressed that there is training for new leaders available through the Office of Neighborhoods and from those currently serving.

Jill Blomgren offered she would be interested in learning more and gain experience. She would be willing to serve as Co-Chair and Community Forum Alternate. Erik West seconded the offer. All were in favor.

Ed Childers nominated Christine Ross to serve as Secretary; she declined, as it would be a conflict of interest due to her job status with the Office of Neighborhoods. There were no nominations or offer to serve as Secretary.

Ed Childers nominated Hans Christiansen to serve as Chair. Discussion about whether Hans wants to serve two roles, Chair and Community Forum Representative were discussed. He would rather do one role. As no one felt compelled or comfortable serving in either of those roles, he agreed to serve as both in hopes that someone would fill one of them by the next general meeting.

Erik West nominated Hans Christiansen to serve as the Community Forum Rep and there were numerous seconds. All were in favor. Ed Childers nomination of Hans Christiansen to serve as Chair was seconded by Erik West. All were in favor.

Jill Blomgren has some people in mind that may be willing and desire to be on the leadership team. It was explained that they are welcome to attend the leadership team meetings and be appointed to the team and be voted in at the next general meeting.

Ed Childers motioned to adjourn the meeting at 8:45 pm.

February Meeting Minutes

 

The meeting was officially called to order by Hans at 7:00 pm.

Present were Hans Christiansen (acting chair and community forum), Erik West (treasurer), Ann Carpenter, and Ed Childers (Ward 6 Alderman).

Minutes from January were approved.

Treasurer's report from Erik: balance is $558.28 from original $800, plus the postage fund of 465.39 of original 503.38

Old Business

Neighborhood Watch is a work in progress. Christine Ross & neighbors are getting signatures.

  • Erik: how big is a neighborhood watch area?
  • Hans: what you see out your door, maybe. What you can see. A block, maybe.
  • Those interested in establishing a neighborhood watch did not attend.

New Business

Boyd Park

  • The Parks web site has a survey, but the response is not straightforward. (Note 2/11/10: the survey is gone). If a survey is on the Web the response should be via the Web.
  • Boyd Park should have sun & shade, covered equipment, diverse equipment for 3-11 year olds. Keep the south end of the park open: big kid area, soccer, frisbee and such. Basketball is good. Volleyball is good.
  • Hans thinks another design workshop is coming.
  • Montessori School people said they'd comment.

Traffic Calming.

  • Ernest. Averys interested.

Community Forum

  • Alderman Strohmaier and Jeff Stevens want to know if Community Forum members and their NC's want to ban cell phones.

Snow Angel

  • Snow-shoveling volunteers. Didn't work out; logistics weren't there. Will work on it over the summer.

Election Judge Volunteers

  • County Elections needs election judges. Need to sign up for 2 years.

Training Retreat for new leadership team members

  • Erin would like to do 8 hours on a Saturday.
  • It was thought that 8 hours was too long, and that on a nice day the training would have poor attendance.

Reserve Street 30mph school zone

  • Ann said the slow zone at CS Porter School was an improvement. It was noted that Jim H and Reggie had worked to make it happen.

Adjourned at 8:15 pm

January Meeting Minutes

The meeting was officially called to order at 7:07 pm.

Present were Hans Christiansen (acting chair and community forum), Erik West (treasurer), Ann Carpenter, Erin Scott (Office of Neighborhoods), and Ed Childers (Ward 6 Alderman).

Minutes from December were approved.

Hans was voted Acting Chair. He'll hold that position, in addition to the position of Community Forum representative, until the next general meeting.

Treasurer's report from Erik: balance is still $611.68, plus the postage fund.

Old Business
Those interested in establishing a neighborhood watch did not attend. Neighborhood Watch should have a Block Captain in every block.

New Business
Boyd Park Stimulus

  • Workshop Saturday at St. Joseph's from 9 to 1, for all 4 parks getting stimulus. Kids are welcome. Averys might go.
  • Suggestions for Boyd Park: keep what's usable. The swings seem to be OK. Add a slide. A shelter would be good, too.
  • Ann mentioned that when there's a portapotty at McLeod Park it gets plenty of use.
  • Erik will stick a notice about the stimulus meeting on the door of the Montissori School.

Wrecks happen at Paxson and Grant Streets at McDonald and Ernest. What would help? 4-way stops? Traffic Calming? If the area people are interested they should talk to Phil Smith in City Public Works.

Erik walks along Russell Street and notes that sidewalks are not shoveled. They need to be cleared by 9am the day following a snowfall.

The meeting was adjourned about 8pm.

December Meeting Minutes

Role: Hans Christiansen, Ann Carpenter, Erin Scott, Ed Childers

Minutes from October and November were unanimously approved. Treasurer's Report was approved. $188.32 has been spent; $611.68 remains.

There are over 50 people on the Southgate Triangle e-mailing list. The City's "official" Southgate Triangle website needs to be tied to the Southgate Triangle's website. Erin has to do that.

Old Business:

  • Agenda says Neighborhood Watch; did not happen due to miscommunication. Rob Scheben is the contact; Hans will contact him.
  • Hans well get a Sharpie with a wide tip to do meeting dates on the sandwich boards.
  • Phil Smith is writing grants for Safe Routes to School
  • The Pedestrian Walk Light at Denny's seems too short. [note sent to Public Works - Ed]
  • Erin visited Realtors about welcome-to-town stuff. Realtors have a folder. Buyers aren't necessarily given it. Do we want to put stuff in it? How about bus routes? Snow shoveling rules?

New Business:

  • Large Project Grants - Hans.
    • Dixon/Brooks Triangle - Partner with Missoula Midtown Association? Maybe funds from URDIII Who would own it?
    • Parks - what do we have, what should we do with them? Note that some residents are concerned about possible trails past their yards.
      Hans received a traffic calming pamphlet from Phil. Ann notes that not everyone who drives around traffic circles is happy about it.

8:30 pm adjourn

December Meeting Agenda

Your Neighborhood Council is meeting tomorrow night at 7:00 PM in the Community Room of the Southgate Mall (Click here for a map of the mall).

Welcome/Introduction

  1. Public Comment (feel free to discuss any item of interest to you if it is not on our agenda)
  2. Approve Minutes from October General Meeting
  3. Approve Minutes from November Meeting
  4. Treasures Report & Approval

Old Business

  1. Neighborhood Watch
    1. Introduce neighbors who are Block Captains
    2. Discuss Neighborhood Watch fees --- how do we separate these fees from Neighborhood Council funds
    3. Discuss a process for recruiting each block –area
  2. Expanding active membership
    1. Starting Point
    2. What do we expect out of our neighborhood council
  3. HELP WANTED -- A PERSON TO REPRESENT SOUTHGATE TRIANGLE NC ON THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL BOARD

New Business

  1. Application for Community Forum Large Project Grant Funds FY 2010
  2. Trail System
  3. Traffic Calming information

November Meeting Minutes

I. Opening and Role: The meeting started at 7pm with Hans Christiansen, Erik West, Matt Baldassin, Erin Scott, Christine Ross and Ed Childers present. Ann Carpenter showed up a little later.

II. Approve minutes from October General Meeting
No copy available will do at next meeting

III. Treasurer's Report & Approval
There is currently $711.68 in the budget. Awaiting the printing bill from last mailer and there will be an expenditure from Sign Pro when the sandwich board inserts are done.

IV. Old Business
A. Staff from the office of neighborhoods attended to brainstorm and work to establish some goals for the team to strive towards to build membership and recruit for leadership. There is the need and desire to build NC to fill LT positions and get increased interest, involvement and attendance.

B. Membership and Leadership Team
Will work towards building interest to find interim folks to appoint and vote in April at the general meeting. Election of interim Chair and Secretary

V. New Business
A. Safe Routes to School Representation
There has been a member of the NC on this committee who would like to step down; the NC needs to find a replacement. It was suggested to tap into the PTA perhaps at Russell School to find a resident interested. Could go to the PTA or contact them to announce a resident is needed to fill the NC role of serving.

B. Neighborhood Crime
There have been recent break-ins, suspicious behavior and vicious dogs at large in the area. One neighbor had their front door crow barred for entry, perps were caught due to a good description and a timely call to 911 with information.

C. Trail Park Support
-didn't discuss

D. Paxson/Brooks St. Triangle Development
Hans provided an update where the Midtown Association is in support and will help fund this project when it comes along. Looking into ownership of the property for how to pursue.

E. Neighborhood Watch
There has been an interest from neighbors in activating a neighborhood watch program. Neighbors in the Grant St./McDonald St. areas are wanting to organize and get going. Strategy discussed on how to make this an 'inclusive' thing with the NC; neighbors coming together and building community; having a block captain provide updates for meetings, hopefully get involved in the LT. – East of Paxon

1. The NCLT is in support of activating Neighborhood Watch in the area and is concerned about safety of their neighbors. Have it be inclusive and incorporated into the NC for building community, interest, and attendance and involvement with the NC. Resources and tools on how to start a Neighborhood Watch Program were shared. This program development will be on-going.
Role of neighborhood council

2. Erin offered to gather some information and statistics to use as a gage for a starting point, 'we are here now' and to use for comparison over time. This information could be useful in tracking change and to inform citizens in the area.

Other
The leadership team will focus on some primary goals:

  • Building a contact list of 50 people whether it be by email, phone tree or combination.
  • Have links to both websites, city hosted site and southgate.org so both are getting information and seen as neighborhood informational tools
  • Working with Neighborhood Watch to generate involvement in the NC; include updates from Block Captain(s); support organization efforts.
  • Pursue a Safe Route to School representative
  • Work with the Midtown Association on a beatification/ neighborhood identity gateway project at Paxon/Dixon/Brooks
  • Provide some focus on why/how to be involved
  • Target how to 'welcome' new people to the neighborhood.

Safe Routes To School

The Southgate Triangle Neighborhood needs a representative to sit on the Safe Routes to School Group with other neighborhoods from around the city. Preferably it would be someone who has young kids going to school. If you are interested, please contact Phil Smith (552-6352) of the Bike Ped office.

October General Meeting Minutes

The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:05. Those present:

  • Matt Baldassin (chairman)
  • Ann Carpenter
  • Ed Childers
  • Hans Christiansen (community forum rep)
  • John Cuplin
  • Kathy Greathouse
  • Jim Hausauer (Franklin to the Fort)
  • Christine Ross
  • Erin Scott (Neighborhood liason)
  • Barbara Steele
  • Michael Steele
  • Ryan Sutherland (secretary/web)
  • Susie Turner
  • Lauren Varney (representing Marilyn Marler)
  • Erik West (treasurer)

Public CommentNew Park
Mr. Jim Hausauer from Franklin to the Fort Neighborhood – brought a proposal for a new park opportunity which is being headed up by the Missoula Redevelopment Agency (MRA). Below is the possible park. Mr. Hausauer is seeking as much support as possible while the MRA is considering what to do with the sidewalks. This constitutes a 1/2 acre of land. Mr. Hausauer would like people to contact the MRA and let them know they support a park at this location. He’d also like the council to put this on the agenda for next month.

Question – Who would maintain it? Answer: The Parks Dept. already maintains the trail and it would be part of their maintenance route.

Mr. Christiansen mentioned that citizens who aren’t registered to vote can register at the fairgrounds. Also, at the corntriangleer of Brooks & Paxson there is nothing but a small patch of weeds.

Mr. Christiansen thinks we should try and get ownership or long-term lease of that parcel. It would be nice to have a “welcome to the Southgate Triangle” or “welcome to Midtown” sign on that land.

Mr. Hausauer also mentioned that if there is a road hazard, pothole or something else that you notice, you should call it in.

Mr. Mike Steele made comment that right behind McDonald’s there are dogs at large and high speed traffic. They would like to see a neighborhood watch start up in this part of the neighborhood. Christine Ross mentioned that there is a crime prevention officer named Mr. Rob Scheben who can help get this type of program going. Ms. Ross will get us information for the next meeting.

Ms. Christine Ross introduced Mr. Phil Smith of the bike/ped office to discuss options for traffic calming on Grant Street. He spoke for a while about the history of traffic calming processes in Missoula. It always takes time to implement traffic calming because it takes time to get as many perspectives as possible. When concerns are expressed it is really important to get neighborhood consensus. There is a traffic calming packet/application available from the bike/ped office. The traffic calming program is neighborhood driven. The bike/ped office is not looking for places to install traffic calming. It has to be initiated by the neighbors. The cost is complicated because they first have to determine what device is needed.

  • Ms. Carpenter is concerned about the way these devices create angry drivers. Perhaps another idea is to create some one-way streets.

New Business
A. Introduction to Ward 6 City Council Candidates – Marilyn Marler (represented by Lauren Varney) and Kathy Greathouse

  • Kathy Greathouse – married to a contractor. She designs the homes and her husband and brother build. They are building green and are a very small business. Barely getting by. Her passion is to support business and help those who are dealing with unemployment. She is all for a beautiful Garden City, but we need to have jobs and incomes before we can raise taxes and spend money on beautification. You can click here to see her campaign card to find out more about her.
  • Lauren Varney – lives at 11th and Kemp is the director of Home Resource. He is here representing Marilyn Marler. Marilyn Marler is the current Ward 6 representative seeking re-election. Kathy and Marilyn seem to both be passionate about the same issues – Marilyn has a great relationship with the other council members and knows how to get things done. She’s been doing a great job. You can click here to see her website.

Questions:

  • Mr. Christiansen is concerned about the SID’s and property taxes – what ideas are there for utilizing/lowering these costs? Ms. Marler – utilize more grants and try to be more creative in helping work with people in SID situation. Mrs. Greathouse – try to make the SID a longer term payment situation. The SID’s are a little bit scary given our current economy – we need to figure out where we are going before we just start slapping people with something they can’t afford.
  • Mr. Childers asked about fast moving traffic in this neighborhood – Ms. Marler – did not discuss this with Mr. Varney ahead of time so he could only give his opinions on the matter. One idea is to call the patrol captain and at least let him know the concern. Another option is to try some traffic calming devices, but pedestrian traffic should be the top priority. We should not make the car the top priority on the road. Mrs. Greathouse – there is a traffic study being done by Public Works to figure out how to adjust the current signs. Her recommendation is to get a traffic study done.

Ms. Greathouse made one final comment that she is not a conservative or a liberal, she’s middle of the road and wants to do what is best for Ward 6.

B. Peak Health & Wellness Center Presentation: Introduction to the “New” Facility

  • Ms. Susie Turner – they are building a new racket center which is 5100 square feet. It will have raquetball and tennis. This has been a dream of the owners for a long time – it’s finally becoming a reality. The membership will be tiered – you could have a club membership, tennis membership, etc. They are going to cater to people’s interests and ability to pay.

C. Elections for Chairperson and Secretary

  1. Current Chair: Matt Baldassin
  2. Current Secretary: Ryan Sutherland

There were no nominations for new folks to fill these roles. We’ll have to address these vacancies at the next meeting.

We concluded the meeting by reviewing the minutes and treasurers report. Mr. Baldassin made a motion to approve the minutes as posted on the website. Mr. West seconded and all voted in favor. Mr. West gave the treasurers report and as of the most recent update we still had a full budget. There was no need to approve the budget as recorded.

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Baldassin seconded. We adjourned at 9:20 PM.

SGT General Meeting – THIS WEDNESDAY!

The Neighborhood Council will be gathering this Wednesday evening at the Southgate Mall at 7:00 pm for one of our two yearly general meetings. Please come and join us. This is a great opportunity to meet fellow neighbors and the leadership team. We’ll be hearing from candidates who are running to represent the SGT on the City Council, voting on new officers for the leadership team, and discussing other important issues that we face as a neighborhood and community. Refreshments will be provided. Please spread the word to your immediate neighbors.

Community Bus Tour

The Community Forum is sponsoring a neighborhood Bus Tour on Saturday, September 26th. Interested neighbors should meet at 9am in front of Currents Aquatic Center in McCormick Park (100 Hickory Street) for coffee, snacks and conversation before loading the bus. The bus will depart at 9:30am and end at approximately 12:00pm.

Enjoy touring the southern neighborhoods of Missoula, hearing history from some locals, learning about neighborhood councils, and meeting other members of Missoula's diverse community.

Afterwards all participants are invited to stick around for a FREE lunch, socialize with your new friends and take advantage of a FREE day pass to Currents Aquatic Center! Questions? Call (406) 552-6081 or email escott@ci.missoula.mt.us

The Southgate Triangle still has seats available. Click here to reserve your seat.

September Meeting Minutes

The Chairman called the meeting was called to order at 7:05. Those present:

  • Matt Baldassin (chairman)
  • Hans Christiansen (forum rep)
  • Ryan Sutherland (secretary/web)

There were no minutes to approve and the treasurer was not present.

Old Business
Park Pet Update – it is installed and done! Looks great and the kids are loving it.

New Business

  • Bus Tour – It is scheduled for September 26th @ 9:30 AM. Mr. Christiansen and Mr. West are going to go to represent our neighborhood.
  • Large Project Grant – The deadline is the 28th. We should apply for some money, but what do we need to spend it on. The grant has a maximum of $3000. We need a specific project with plans and studies.
    • Mr. Christiansen made a motion that we apply for a large project grant to begin the process of improving Boyd and/or McCloud Park. This money would go towards doing a neighborhood study to see what the parks need. Mr. Baldassin seconded the motion. All voted in favor. Mr. Christiansen agreed to work on the application.
  • October General Meeting
    • Itinerary – Mr. Baldassin is going to withdraw as chairperson and Mr. Sutherland is going to resign as secretary. He’d be happy to continue to run the web side of things. Therefore we need to elect 2 seats. We can also discuss the large project grant discussion.
    • Newsletter/Signage – Mr. Christiansen will take care of the signs and the neighborhood office will help Mr. Baldassin with the newsletter.
    • Refreshments – Mr. Sutherland will take care of the refreshments.
    • Speaker – Marilyn Marler has an opponent for City Council. It might be worth having her and her opponent come and speak. Mr. Baldassin also suggested getting the Peak to come present on the new tennis wing. We’ll also invite Erin Scott, new liaison, to come introduce herself. Mr. Baldassin will contact Ms. Scott and Mr. Sutherland will contact Ms. Marler.
    • Other

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Baldassin seconded. We adjourned at 8:05 PM.

Monthly Meeting Tonight

The Neighborhood Council Leadership Team will be gathering tonight at the Southgate Mall Meeting Room at 7pm to discuss neighborhood matters. These meetings are open to the public and we’d encourage you to come and join us. This is a great opportunity to meet fellow neighbors and the leadership team and a great way to be informed about what is happening around the neighborhood. It’s also a great way for the leadership team to address concerns or hear about projects to give attention to.

Tonight’s agenda includes (but is not limited to):

  • Applications for large project grants
  • October General Meeting
  • Other new business
  • Leadership Team changes

If you have the desire to serve your fellow neighbors as a member of the Leadership Team, then you won’t want to miss this meeting. Several positions on the Leadership Team are currently available.

Hope to see you tonight!

Monthly Meeting Re-Scheduled

The Leadership Team would like to apologize to any residents who showed up at our normal meeting time (Wednesday August 12). Several members of the Leadership Team were unable to attend so the meeting has been re-scheduled for this coming Wednesday, the 19th at 7pm at the Community Room in the Southgate Mall.

Sorry for any inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

June Meeting Minutes

The chairman was not able to be present so Mr. Christiansen called the meeting to order at 7:09 PM. Those present:

  • Ann Carpenter
  • Hans Christiansen
  • John Cuplin
  • Ryan Sutherland
  • Erik West

Mr. Sutherland read the minutes from the previous meeting. Mr. West made a motion to approve the minutes and Mr. Cuplin seconded. All voted to accept them as available on the website. Any corrections to the minutes should be sent to Mr. Sutherland via email (sgtriangle@gmail.com).

Mr. West gave the Treasurer's Report. It is as follows: Essentially we have a zero balance, but the neighborhood office did not have a formal report for us. We will be broke until the city approves the budget. Mr. Sutherland made a motion to accept the report as presented and Mr. Cuplin seconded. All voted in favor.

We then spent a few moments discussing the role of the treasurer as an introduction to Mr. West. We moved on to discuss some Old Business We discussed the updated information about the park pet. We were unclear about the correspondence Mr. Baldassin has had with Park & Rec. We decided to table setting a date for the work day until July's meeting so we have time to clarify what the work day includes. Mr. Christiansen volunteered to contact Park & Rec (Scott VanOmmeran) to get some clarification.

We also discussed the survey results and tried to consider what some of the big issues were in the neighborhood. We spent some time trying to compile all the things about the neighborhood that people have issues with. The top two issues were:

  1. Barking Dogs
  2. Street issues (parking, speeding, traffic, rough roads, snow removal, cleanup, street signs)

We discussed council involvement concerning these issues. For the first one we reiterated what we talked about at the last meeting - to post the barking dog complaint form on the website and encourage citizens to pursue this gripe with the city. Concerning the second issue…

  1. Parking - Mr. Christiansen said that a vehicle that is legally licensed may park on the street for up to 72 hours - after this they can be towed. If it isn't legally licensed it can be towed that day. There is nothing against parking in front of someone else's house (as long as the driveway isn't blocked and it doesn’t stay for more than 72 hours). Citizens can call if they see one parked for an illegal length of time.
  2. Speeding - Mr. Sutherland will post the survey results from the city about speeding and citizens are encouraged to call the city if there continues to be speeding problems. Citizens are encouraged to note the time of day and location that speeding tends to be a problem.
  3. Traffic & Maintenance - there is not much the council can do about these issues. The city does as much as it can in the allotted budget.
  4. Street Signs - Mr. Sutherland will email Ms. Sandy Wilcox and find out what streets she knows are problematic. We'll also post something on the website asking citizens to notify us of streets that are missing signs. Mr. Christiansen knows that the corner of Washburn & Bel Air Place is missing (the pole is there, but the signs are missing). We'll let the city know that these are missing.

Mr. Sutherland will take this discussion and draft a letter to the mayor and the city administrator notifying them of these issues and our survey results.

Ms. Carpenter made a motion to adjourn and Mr. West seconded. All voted in favor and we adjourned at 8:50 PM.

Southgate Triangle Meeting Tonight

The Neighborhood Council Leadership Team will be gathering tonight at the Southgate Mall Meeting Room at 7pm to discuss neighborhood matters. These meetings are open to the public and we’d encourage you to come and join us. This is a great opportunity to meet fellow neighbors and the leadership team and a great way to be informed about what is happening around the neighborhood. It’s also a great way for the leadership team to address concerns or hear about projects to give attention to.

We’ll also be reviewing and discussing the survey results.

May 2009 Meeting Minutes

The chairman called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM. Those present:

  • Matt Baldassin
  • Ann Carpenter
  • Ed Childers
  • Hans Christiansen
  • John Cuplin
  • Ryan Sutherland
  • Erik West

Mr. Sutherland read the minutes from the previous meeting and Mr. Baldassin made a motion to approve the minutes as available on the website. Mr. Christiansen seconded and all voted in favor. Any corrections to the minutes should be sent to Mr. Sutherland via email (sgtriangle@gmail.com).

Mr. West gave the Treasurer's Report. It is as follows:

General Budget      
  7/1/2008 Beginning Balance $800.00
  10/15/2008 Bus Tour ($43.53)
  1/13/2009 Kinko’s Late Fee ($25.00)
  3/30/2009 Survey Monkey ($19.95)
  4/1/2009 Reim Hans – sign boards for gen mtg ($15.85)
  4/9/2009 Safeway – gen mtg ($12.47)
  4/10/2009 The Directory ($223.77)
  4/10/2009 Pyramid Printing ($205.86)
    Ending Balance $253.57
       
Mailing Supplement      
  7/1/2008 Revenue $438.09
  7/1/2008 Supp. Increase $65.72
  10/15/2008 October Mailing ($362.45)
  12/1/2008 Kinko’s Postcards ($102.38)
  4/10/2009 The Directory ($38.98)
    Ending Balance $0

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to accept the report as presented and Mr. Christiansen seconded. All voted in favor.

We then spent a few moments discussing the role of the treasurer as an introduction to Mr. West.

We moved on to discuss some Old Business

Mr. Baldassin gave an update about the park pet. We discussed placement of the pet and Mr. Sutherland thought it would be cool to put it on the southeast corner where the kids wait for the bus. Mr. Childers thought this was a great idea and it should face the corner.

An estimate for installing the pet is around $500. Mr. Christiansen mentioned that he spoke with the city treasurer about this very issue and there is not much money left in the neighborhood system. If there is any money left, he's pretty sure the treasurer can get it for us.

Mr. Baldassin made a motion to install the park pet in the southeast corner (assuming Park & Rec can put it there) facing the traffic circle. Mr. Sutherland seconded and all voted in favor. Mr. Christiansen made a motion that we designate the rest of our budget ($253.57) towards the anticipated cost of the installation. Mr. West seconded and all voted in favor. Mr. Christiansen is going to speak with the treasurer to try and secure the additional funds needed. Mr. Baldassin will speak with Ms. Donna Gaukler of Park & Rec to try and secure the actual cost and date of the installation.

We also discussed the survey results and tried to consider what some of the big issues were in the neighborhood. Barking dogs, parking recreational vehicles on the street, and speeding. Mr. Childers mentioned that there is a dog barking complaint form that he will email to Mr. Sutherland to post on the website.

We discussed whether there were any projects worth doing in the near future and Mr. Christiansen thinks that we should continue to pursue park improvements.

Mr. Baldassin wondered how we handle concerns (like barking dogs and illegal parking) that already have regulations or ordinances in place (but aren't being enforced)? Is it the responsibility of the Leadership Team to police the neighborhood? Mr. Childers' opinion was that we should try and address the issues that people are concerned about. He also encouraged us to send our survey results to the mayor and Chief Administrative Officer of the city so that our neighborhood concerns are heard.

Mr. Sutherland made a motion that he will take the surveys and compile the results and create a letter both for the website and to send the city. At the next meeting we will review the letter and the data and make any changes and identify a more tangible project going forward.

We began a discussion of New Business:

We also discussed the proposal by Franklin to the Fort at the General Meeting. After some discussion we realized that we weren't real sure what FtF was trying to gain by changing the boundaries. Mr. Christiansen made a motion that we table this item until the school district finishes their restructure and until FtF comes back with some additional information. Mr. West seconded and all voted in favor.

Mr. Sutherland asked about a discussion we began in January concerning a name change of our monthly meetings as well as the format - less structure and more discussion. None of us were really sure what the advantages of the change might be (or the procedure for changing it). We decided to table this discussion.

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Christiansen seconded. We adjourned at 8:55 PM.

April 2009 General Meeting

The chairman, Mr. Matt Baldassin, called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM. He welcomed all who were present:

  • Matt Baldassin
  • Carol Brodie
  • Ann Carpenter
  • Ed Childers
  • Hans Christiansen
  • John Cuplin
  • LaNette Diaz
  • Jen Gress
  • Helen Kolokotrones
  • Jon Salmonson
  • Ryan Sutherland
  • Margaret Syroid
  • Lynn Talarico
  • Carole Ulrigg
  • Erik West
  • Tom Zavitz

We reviewed the discussions from previous meetings leading up to this meeting (there haven't been any formal meetings or minutes for a few months). Mr. Baldassin informed the group that at the last meeting the Leadership Team discussed the agenda for this General Meeting as well as the mailing that we sent out with the survey. Mr. Baldassin explained the purpose of the survey and the mailing. Mr. Baldassin introduced the Leadership Team - Ryan Sutherland (Secretary/Webmaster) and Mr. Hans Christiansen (Neighborhood Forum Representative).

There was no treasurer’s report because we don’t have a treasurer.

Mr. Baldassin opened the floor for public comment:

  • Mr. Jon Salmonson - Franklin to the Fort Neighborhood Forum Representative offered some public comment. He mentioned that it is so difficult, particularly in large neighborhoods like ours and his, to communicate effectively to all residents. It is tough to service folks and to get involvement. He wanted to pose a question for our neighborhood to consider as neighborhood boundaries are considered by the City. Here’s the summary of his comment…
    • Southgate Triangle (SGT) and Franklin to the Fort (FtF) are two extremely large neighborhoods where the current boundaries are confusing for residents and difficult for those who live in one neighborhood but have kids in the school of the other. Should we consider redefining the boundaries of FtF (and make it consistent with the Franklin School District) - 3rd St. to South Ave. and Russell St. to Reserve St.? FtF would then absorb the north triangle of the SGT and the SGT would absorb the south triangle of FtF (and make it consistent with the Russell School District). This would make the new boundaries of SGT South Ave. to 39th St. and Russell St. to Reserve St.. Thus both Neighborhoods would be nice rectangles (and in the correct mailing sections – the current northern triangle of the SGT receives mailings for FtF)

Mr. Baldassin then moved on to some new business:

  • Election of a treasurer. Mr. Christiansen nominated Mr. Erik West to fill the office and Ms. Carole Ulrigg seconded and the council voted unanimously in favor.

Mr. Baldassin then introduced Ms. Jen Gress & Mr. Tom Zavitz from OPG. They gave a presentation about the city’s zoning rewrite process. Please see their website http://www.zoningmissoula.com for more information.

Mr. Baldassin then introduced Ms. LaNette Diaz from the Office of Neighborhoods – she gave a presentation on infrastructure funding (sidewalks, curbs, streets, parks, etc) which has been a project of the Community Forum. Community Forum is interested in finding out what residents are interested in considering in terms of funding options for these types of projects.

Mr. Baldassin then opened the floor to discuss issues facing our neighborhoods

  • Ms. Ulrigg asked that we re-consider a previous discussion on teenage suicide. There have been a few recent suicides.
  • Lynn Talarico mentioned that there is such a huge traffic problem in her part of the neighborhood - Russell & 34th - (mainly speeding) coming from Paxson to Russell on 34th. She thinks that traffic calming devices might be a solution.
  • Ms. Talarico also would like to see some improvements to Boyd Park - it really needs some playground equipment. Several residents agreed with this.
  • Ms. Brody would like to see something done about the dust around McDonald & Paxson - near the commercial areas.
  • Ms. Talarico would like to see something done about the dog noise in her neighborhood.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 pm.

SGT General Meeting – Tonight!

The Neighborhood Council will be gathering tonight at the Southgate Mall at 7pm for one of our two yearly general meetings. Please come and join us. This is a great opportunity to meet fellow neighbors and the leadership team. We’ll be voting on new officers and discussing the issues that we face as a neighborhood and community. Refreshments will be provided.

Neighborhood Survey!

The Leadership Team is conducting a survey to try to find ways to better serve the residents of the neighborhood. There are two ways to take the survey – you can click on the link below or you can take the survey that you received in the mail. It would greatly help us use our time wisely on your behalf if every resident would take the survey.

Click Here to take survey

Meeting Location

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: The Neighborhood Council will be meeting on the second Thursday of each month during the months of January, February and March 2011.


The Neighborhood Council meets on the second Wednesday of each month at 7:00 PM in the Community Room of the Southgate Mall:

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Neighborhood Orientation Workshop

Attention Neighbors…

The Office of Neighborhoods is hosting a Neighborhood Orientation next week. The Leadership Team would like you to consider coming.

Here are the details:

January 21, 6pm to 9pm

this workshop will help citizens learn about neighborhood councils; learn how to be involved; and what neighborhood councils can do for you. You will walk away with the following knowledge:

  • History of Neighborhood Councils
  • Developing your neighborhood leadership team
  • Starting a neighborhood council and keeping your neighborhood council active
  • Neighborhood programs through the Office of Neighborhoods
  • Meeting management ideas
  • Financial Resources available to neighborhood councils
  • How to – change bylaws, update your website, utilize funds, run a meeting and send mailings

Please RSVP to Ryan Sutherland so we can let the Office of Neighborhoods know how much food and chairs are needed!

January 2009 Meeting Minutes

The chairman called the meeting to order at 7:09 PM.

Those present:

  • Matt Baldassin
  • Ed Childers
  • Hans Christiansen
  • Ryan Sutherland

The last 2 months we have not had a formal meeting so no minutes were read. Instead Ryan read the minutes from the General Meeting and Mr. Baldassin voted to approve with Mr. Christiansen seconding. All voted in favor to approve.

Mr. Christiansen gave the Treasurer's Report. It is as follows:

General Budget      
  7/1/2008 Beginning Balance $800.00
  10/15/2008 Bus Tour ($43.53)
    Ending Balance $756.47
       
Mailing Supplement      
  7/1/2008 Revenue $438.09
  7/1/2008 Supp. Increase $37.68
  10/15/2008 October Mailing ($362.45)
    Ending Balance $113.32

We have also been charged $25 in late fees to Kinkos for our October mailing which will be reflected on the next report.

We talked about the issues we are currently facing as a leadership team - we are not sure how best to serve the neighborhood because we don't have much involvement. Our idea at this point is to send out a survey to the neighborhood and find out if there are issues/ideas that people have. We need to try and find some sort of way to bolster involvement.

Mr. Baldassin is going to attend the January 21 Neighborhood Orientation workshop and talk to LaNette Diaz about this idea and see what kind of assistance the Neighborhood Office can give us.

One of our other issues is that Carole Ulrigg recently resigned. The reasons for her resignation are still unknown to the Leadership Team. Her resignation leaves the office of Treasurer open. Ms. Ulrigg was a very important part of the team and will be missed.

We also talked about changing the name of our monthly meetings as well as the format - less structure and more discussion.

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Childers seconded. Adjourned at 8:00 PM.

Mount Sentinel Reseeding Project

Dear Neighbors - here's an opportunity to serve your community! We need your help re-seeding Mt. Sentinel!

We've all seen the huge burned area on the hillside above U of M (in fact it was going up in flames during one of our leadership meetings this summer!) - this project is all about reseeding the ground with native grasses to prevent the spread of noxious weeds and it's going to take an awful lot of help to pull it off!

And that's where you come in! We need volunteers to help on Saturday, Nov 8 from 8:30 AM - 4:00 PM. Reseeding requires traversing steep hillsides, so you should be prepared for a vigorous day of walking. Lunch will be provided, with a party afterwards to talk about the day and build community among people who shared a fun experience.

If you'd like to volunteer (either to work or help with the party), please contact Graham Roy (493-6634) or Christian Cryder (529-5568). Hope to see you this weekend!

October 2008 General Meeting Minutes

The chairman called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM

Those present:

  • Hans Christiansen
  • Ed Stevenson
  • Marolane Stevenson
  • Raquel Arovea
  • John Cuplin
  • Rachel Sutherland
  • Wayne Gravatt
  • Helen Kolokotrones
  • Sharon Price
  • Lyn Hellegaard
  • Donna Gaukler
  • Ryan Sutherland
  • Antonio Guglielmo
  • Connie Skousen
  • Carole Ulrigg
  • LaNette Diaz
  • Lisa Donnelly

Mr. Baldassin introduced Ms. Donna Gaukler of the Parks Dept. to lead a discussion on Bellevue Park. She began with some general information about the park. Bellevue Park is a city park and part of the Urban Master Plan - as of today, there is no funding to improve or develop the park. If there are concerns about the current state of the park, please call the Parks Dept. Once funding is in place, there will be a design process. As of today, there is no preconceived design for the park. The design process will be limited by safety codes and funding. The neighbors of the park will be invited to participate in the park design process. Funding sources include SID (Special Improvement District - this is not recommended), Mill Levies, Bond Issues, Impact Fees (new development fee - there is very limited, if any, development happening in our neighborhood which greatly limits this source), City General Fund - there really isn't any money available in the general fund for park development.

Questions? Comments?

  • Mrs. Ulrigg asked why there were surveyors in the park a few months ago?
    • Answer: Not sure - perhaps there was some utility work being done.
  • Mr. and Mrs. Stevenson commented that we are in dire straights in the U.S. economically and we need to prioritize our spending towards people. This park has been scheduled for development since 1973. It is fine the way it is. Could it just be mowed a little more often? It seems this issue comes up so frequently.
  • Councilwoman Lyn H. - The Brooks corridor is scheduled for some 2000 in-fill housing units and she would imagine that some park land would come with that. Is there any information on how this infill will impact the park development for the rest of the neighborhood?
    • Answer: It could speed up Bellevue development depending on its proximity to the new units.
  • Someone asked about the leash laws in the park since it is not going to be developed?
    • Answer: If a neighborhood would like a park or a portion of the park be changed from "leash control" to "voice control" they would need to get a petition for those who live around the park and then contact Ms. Gaukler to move the process forward.
  • Mrs. Skousen asked if part of the park could be designated as "voice control" - it seems that less is better these days.
  • Mrs. Ulrigg asked that if this becomes a designated "voice control" area can anyone in Missoula bring their dogs there?
    • Answer: There is a difference between "dog parks" "voice control" and "animal training" areas. Each of these have their own regulations. It will be a public space and any citizen is welcome to use public space.
  • Mr. Christiansen made the point that the Southgate Triangle NC has a committee that is studying Bellevue Park - why don't we talk as a committee about what you want in that park?

Bob Reed from Missoula County gave a presentation on the new Emergency Operations Center. It's a wonderful time to be asking the public for money! The presentation is not meant to "sell" us on the idea, but to merely give us the overview of what the plan is. The building will go up at the current vacant lot at the corner of Mullan and Broadway.

The new building will house the emergency 911 center, the sheriff's offices, and a secure warehouse to store evidence and emergency vehicles. The current building is too small and they are bursting at the seams. This building has been in the works since the late 80's.

Originally the building was designed to house both the city police and the county sheriff's dept, but it wasn't feasible for the city dept. to leave the downtown. On the 911 side they have reached the physical limit - they have 6 dispatchers and the workload has grown immensely. About 70% of the 911 business is for city police and fire dept. The sheriff's office currently has about 5000 sq. ft and what they really need (and is projected in the new space) is about 15,000 sq. ft.

When they projected ahead for the size of the building they took in to account Missoula's population growth and so it is sized so that they shouldn't need to add to the building for the next 25-30 years. There is an emergency operations and training center located in the building. This is a place where commanders and government elected officials work to manage large scale incidents (like the Hell's Angels this summer which was managed out of rented space at the Rocky Mtn Elk Foundation for about $10,000-$15,000 dollars for less than a week). This was a plan that was enacted over several months - a luxury that most emergencies don't afford those who have to respond. At the same time, these events don't happen more than once or twice per year. Since you can't have large areas of space sitting vacant, it would double as a training facility. The availability of good, reliable training space makes more frequent and better training more possible (thus providing better service to our community).

The cost of the building is about $23.5 million - this has risen substantially since it was first priced 2 years ago - the cost of construction is going up so fast that they have decided to put this before the voters now. The amount on the ballot initiative will be for $16 million. There is some other funding sources that will offset some of this.

Questions/Concerns?

  • Mrs. Stevenson - Why are the city/county not in the same building? Shouldn't they be working together?
    • Answer: There are valid points to be made in either direction on this. There aren't any real good reasons to keep these departments together. Of course it would be optimal. It is not necessary and won't have a negative effect on their operations.
  • Mr. Baldassin - What is the alternative plan if the measure does not pass?
    • Answer: We'll continue to do the best we can with what we have. We're trying to avoid the "gloom & doom" or "alarmist" approaches, but the situation is not good right now. The good news is that they aren't out asking for money because some crisis happened. The growth factors are only going to continue and the cost is only going to increase the longer we wait.
  • Mrs. Stevenson - How many people are employed?
    • Answer: Not sure about the demographics in the sheriffs office b/c Mr. Reid doesn't work there. 25 employees currently in the 911 center.
  • Mrs. Ulrigg - Why does 911 need a new building? Couldn’t this be smaller and have 911 move into a vacant space in town?
    • Answer: We looked at that option, but the cost to remodel is significantly more than building new. A 911 center is a very expensive proposition to get up and running. The price tag on this building includes technology and the current 911 technology has seen its lifecycle.

If you'd like to witness the space issues first hand - there are 2 standing tours for the public - 12pm noon on Tuesdays and 5:30 PM on Thursdays - go to the Pine Street entrance of the courthouse by the bus depot.

The installation of the Park Pet - we need to talk to David Shaw about costs for installation and we'll need to apply for a special grant to pay for the installation.

We'd also like to name the pet - Mrs. Ulrigg made a motion to have LaNette Diaz put an ad in the Missoulian and to have something on the website to solicit names for the pet.

Elections - Treasurer and Community Forum Representative. Carole Ulrigg is our current treasurer - Mr. Sutherland made a motion to re-elect Mrs. Ulrigg and Mr. Baldassin seconded - all were in favor. Mr. Christiansen will agree to serve as Community Forum Rep for at least one more year - he likes doing it. Mr. Baldassin made the motion to re-elect Mr. Christiansen and Mr. Gravatt seconded. All voted in favor. Mr. Christiansen mentioned that he would like to see someone serve as the alternate. If there is anyone in the neighborhood who is interested in getting more involved - this is a great way to do it. Come serve as the CFR Alternate.

We read and approved the minutes from the previous meeting

We heard and approved the treasurer's report. Mrs. Ulrigg made a motion and all were in favor of paying the cost for the mailing for this general meeting. Mr. Baldassin made a motion that Mrs. Ulrigg be reimbursed for costs associated with the ice cream social that she was not reimbursed for.

Current Balance of the General Fund: $800
Current Balance of the Mailing Supplement: $475.77

Wayne Gravatt - acknowledged by the chairman to give some public comment. He's concerned about the future for our city given the current financial situation. We're going to have some real problems if we don't change how we do business. As the city grows and you are required to do a service with budget restraints - there is a tremendous disconnect between tax payers and city staff. It is very difficult to continue providing a service without increasing budgets. What, if any, long term tax increases are the citizens willing to pay to continue receiving services. What service are essential services and what services are expendable to the public.

Lyn Hellegaard mentioned that the budget process is a major problem. They are given a budget from the mayor and expected to approve it and not really given much input on it.

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to adjourn and Mrs. Ulrigg seconded. All were in favor. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 PM.

General Meeting

Please join us on Wednesday, October 8 at 7:00 PM in the Community Room of the Southgate Mall for our second (we have two/year) General Meeting of 2008. Please come and join the Leadership Team...voice your concerns...ask questions...get involved...make a difference!

Agenda for the Meeting:

  1. GENERAL BUSINESS
  2. ELECTION OF TREASUER AND COMMUNITY FORUM REPRESENTATIVE
  3. REPRESENTATIVE FROM MISSOULA PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS BELVUE PARK DEVELOPMENT
  4. BOB REED FROM MISSOULA COUNTY TO DISCUSS NOVEMBER BOND MEASURE FOR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS AND TRAINING CENTER
  5. PARK PET INSTALLATION AND ‘NAME THAT PET’ CONTEST

If you have other items, concerns, or anything else concerning this agenda, please email the leadership team. Refreshments provided.

Vision Statement of the SG Triangle

The neighborhood council system was created to foster open communication between the citizens of Missoula and their City Government. It has the potential to be much more.

There is a diversity of culture, background, and experience within our neighborhood that we can all benefit from. By becoming familiar and comfortable with our neighbors we create the potential for open communication, new friendships, collaborative problem solving, and a safer, more conscientious community.

The neighborhood council provides a venue for people to introduce themselves, meet those living near them to openly discuss questions or concerns to one or all, and create the relationships and friendships so crucial to realization of all the benefits of being “neighbors.”

In the end, the leadership team wants the citizens of the Southgate Triangle to know that this is their council, and by using it as an interactive resource they can improve their community by interacting with each other.

We have the right and the power to enjoy our neighbors, our neighborhood, and our community.

September 2008 Meeting Minutes

Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:00 PM

The chairman was not present so Mr. Sutherland called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM and welcomed those who were present:

  • Ed Childers - City Councilman
  • Hans Christiansen - Community Forum Rep
  • Chris Riedel - A student at the U of M who was observing the meeting for a class.
  • Ryan Sutherland - Secretary/Webmaster

Mr. Sutherland read through the minutes from the previous meeting - Mr. Christiansen moved and Mr. Childers seconded that we approve the minutes as read. All voted in agreement.

Mr. Christiansen gave the Treasurers Report - the City Council has approved the budget, so we do have our yearly amount of $800 and $438.09 for mailings. The $100 for the Midtown Association dues is forthcoming. The report was approved.

New Business

  1. Agenda for General Meeting
    • Bellevue Park - Donna Gaukler is scheduled to be here, so we need to talk about this and give the citizens an update and squash any rumors. Mr. Christiansen thinks we should also invite the council-men and women from our neighborhood to come.
    • Forum Representative (Hans Christiansen) and Alternate (Anne Carpenter) terms are coming up and we need to elect - Mr. Christiansen is willing to do it again, but is having difficulty hearing at the meetings. Hans would like to have someone willing to attend meetings a little more frequently.
    • Treasurer (Carole Ulrigg) is also up for election/re-election.
    • We could not think of anything else that needed to go on the agenda and decided that the best idea would be to solicit feedback from the rest of the Leadership Team as well as the broader Council.
  2. We discussed the sandwich boards and Mr. Christiansen will check into the cost of getting the dates changed.
  3. We all agreed that Mr. Baldassin did such a lovely job with refreshments at the last meeting that he should take care of them again.

Mr. Sutherland made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Childers seconded. Adjourned at 7:45 PM.